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Ship It Holla Ballas! Storms Reback. Who were the Ship It Holla Ballas? Arguably the most successful poker crew of all time, they took advantage of the online poker boom to win tens of millions of dollars before most of them were old enough to set foot inside a casino.
Then they did what any red-blooded teenagers with mountains of cash and no responsibilities would do: They partied like rock stars, transformin Who were the Ship It Holla Ballas? Then they did what any red-blooded teenagers with mountains of cash and no responsibilities would do: They partied like rock stars, transforming themselves from Internet nerds with zero life skills into legends, at least in their own minds.
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Nov 02, Daniel rated it liked it Shelves: the-first-thousand , nonfiction , poker , gsp. It's fine as far as it goes, but nothing special. Having spent years playing, I already knew a lot of these stories and basically all of these players, but I can see the appeal to a certain sleazy glance into what happens when people who are very young suddenly find themselves making absurd amounts of money.
The book never really does the job it sets out to do when it comes to suggesting that they "grow up" eventually, but that shouldn't stop you from enjoying it. It's an odd fault to have, since they did and most of them lead fairly normal lives now. Seriously, some people shouldn't be allowed to review books unless it's for their sunday school indoctrination class or clearly marked as a thinly-veiled attempt to brag about something no one is impressed by. Sure, you get a bunch of stories about strippers and booze, but you miss out on the fact that several of them have created theories about the game that are so profound that you can barely consider yourself a player anymore unless you have the concept down.
Galfond's Jman contributions to the game with "gBucks" is such an important concept in the game that you can literally divide players into the category of those who know and it and apply it properly and those who don't hint: if you don't know what it is, you're probably in way over your head in anything but a home game.
But then, combinatorics don't generally make for a very thrilling read, do they? I mean, really, who wants to hear about applied statistics and equity evaluation formulas when you could be reading about people doing lines of blow off a table in the middle of a game at a casino? Mar 08, Rob Slaven rated it liked it Shelves: first-reads , psychology. As usual I received this book from GoodReads as part of a giveaway. Also as usual, despite the very kind and generous consideration of getting a free book, I give my candid opinions below.
The subtitle really sums it up pretty nicely. A group of kids from different parts of the country get hooked on online poker, do nothing but play all day for years and make a ton of money doing it. They live decadent lifestyles, learn some key life lessons or don't and finally end up happy or not. Think bil As usual I received this book from GoodReads as part of a giveaway. Think bildungsroman with computers, gambling and lots of illegal mind-altering substances.
The writing in this little bit of non-fiction is merely sufficient; it's readable and can be consumed in a handful of determined hours. There's nothing particularly gripping about the whole thing except the anticipation of some explosive failure on the part of our protagonists as you either cheer for their success or their comeuppance.
The book provides us with a view of a subculture we'd normally not get to see and paints an intimate enough portrait to keep the reader engaged. I will spare my own reader the rather obvious and easily anticipated rant that I could go into about children gambling illegally and engaging in all manner of idiotic behavior, though as an adult it's hard not to have one's mind wander there. There is quite a bit of anthropological value to be found in these pages to be sure but it sets a rather poor example.
Pondering to whom I could recommend this book, I do have some difficulty finding a target for it. Most adults will doubtless be rather put off by the various irresponsible shenanigans demonstrated and I would be terrified for any teenager who reads it for fear that they will view this as an example to be emulated. The book lacks any of the technical detail that would make it interesting to either the mathematically inclined or the gambling addict. It can be assumed, at least, that those who were caught up in the now defunct gambling craze of the mids might be interested.
In summary, the book is a well-constructed view of society gone amok. It has, I suspect, a fairly narrow range of appeal and should be kept out of the hands of impressionable children. This book was absolutely awesome!
It was so well written, fast paced and crazy that I completely forgot that I was reading a book of non-fiction. Completely nuts! I would most definitely recommend reading this book! Mar 06, Kjersti rated it really liked it Shelves: biography-memoir. This kind of book is right up my alley. I love learning about other people doing fascinating things.
I don't play poker so didn't understand some of the references, but I managed just fine. Sep 23, Clare rated it really liked it. Quite frankly, I was unsure if I was going to like it for some of the same reasons I was curious it. I was also a teenager during the Bush years, so I'm largely of an age with the people followed. I was unhip and culturally oblivious enough to have no idea that the poker boom was happening, but I do have some memories of that time period: Namely, that it was an awful cultural wasteland full of cargo shorts and McMansions, and that teenage nerds were terrible and teenage boys were especially terrible, also LiveJournal was still a thing.
I didn't really want to revisit that time. Full disclosure: My memories of that period may be influenced by the fact that I was at the time a bored angry Goth with clinical depression. But I was quite curious about what these other teenage nerds were doing while I was learning to read Tarot cards, a hobby I have never even tried to monetize although perhaps I should.
I had also heard one anecdote from this book referenced a few times, I think once on the Thinking Poker podcast. It was the one where Tom Dwan dares some one to jump into a pool full of sharks for five thousand dollars. At first a teenage girl whose mother had inexplicably left her with them volunteered; then she chickened out, so one of the other dudes did it. I thought this anecdote was amusing, so I figured there might be other like it.
I also did the usual "What would I have done in that situation? The book is not about me. The book starts just before the poker boom really blows up and starts following a few guys who are a little bit older, by online poker standards--guys who had already completed college and were starting their professional lives, guys in their late twenties or early thirties. These guys are not really the focus of most of the book but they provide an entertaining viewpoint to get comfortable with before their scene is roundly crashed by a bunch of high school and early college kids.
It's an excellent hook, presenting the dropouts who would become the Ship It Holla Ballas from an older, outside perspective before getting deeper into their backstories and viewpoints. Most of the book does a pretty seamless job of putting the Ballas' stories in context of the perfect storm of very particular factors going on at the time, both in online poker and, on the rare occasions merited, in the rest of the world.
I actually would have liked to hear a little bit more about how the way this community pooled knowledge and built off each others' ideas advanced the strategies and understanding of how poker works and the way it's played, but probably throwing in more stuff about math and spreadsheets would have slowed the book down a bit. While there are certainly a lot of anecdotes about crazy expensive shenanigans that are entertaining, unsurprising, and possibly thrown in to let the reader live vicariously a little and wonder if we'd be that bananas if we were that rich at that age since face it, most of us weren't but would like to be , there are also a lot of things that were toothache-inducingly familiar to me as someone who spent a lot of time around young nerd dudes, including living with them.
Like, these kids went and bought a mansion in Vegas and they At all. I have lived with people who didn't know how to house. It is viscerally awful. Also these kids once got all their shit stolen because they didn't know where the circuit breaker was or, apparently, what a circuit breaker was.
'Ship It Holla Ballas!' ... Tracing The Rise And Fall Of Internet Poker And Its Most Unlikely Stars
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It was and I was dating a girl in LA who was an aspiring filmmaker trying to put together a poker documentary. We met because she had reached out to get an interview, and she asked me to connect her with a few other players. I had a deep poker rolodex. I told her I could probably help her get interviews with any number of bracelet winners… Madsen, Cantu, Flack, Bartholdi, no problem.